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# The Focused Podcast - Attention Hygiene and more

Jun 08, 2022 

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Two bits of news today...

1. Check out [the most recent *Focused Podcast* hosted by David Sparks and Mike Schmitz](https://www.relay.fm/focused/153) where I discuss some of the troubles a wandering mind can get into. We talk about “Attention Hygiene”, the “Now vs Not Now”, “the Dark Side of Flow“, how we can procrastinate for fear of flow and more.
2. The winds are back in my sails, and I’m working hard to update [*Waves of Focus: Guiding the Wandering Mind*](https://wavesoffocus.com/) for its next iteration. I learned quite a lot from the last two cohorts and have been steadily making progress on updating the material. More to come!

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